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Frank_Baker Frank_Baker
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9 years ago Edited: 9 years ago, Frank_Baker
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2355831/Blind-stroke-patient-79-died-pneumonia-left-outside-rain-hospital-nurses.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24930203

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2773236

They say they were tested positive for flu viruses, yet they're saying the flu was caused by getting a bit wet from rain. So which one is it? Rainwater tapping on the skin causes spontaneous generation of viruses?

We are warm-blooded. I think we can rule out that going in the rain will cause hypothermia significant enough to lower one's immunity.

If this is true, why don't people who take regular showers develop pneumonia and H1N1/colds all over the place? What about people who live in foggy areas, or use humidifiers, or live in very humid places? It does not add up.

So it's only RAIN that causes these diseases, but not people who are regularly submerged in water, such as swimmers, or kids who just play in the water at the beach? It's only little bits of water, tapping on the skin... Hmmm very suspicious.
Post Merge: 9 years ago

Anyone? Anyone to settle this controversy?
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9 years ago
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2773236

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A computerised information retrieval system of abattoir pathology and meteorological data has been used to investigate the effect of prevailing weather conditions on the occurrence of pleurisy and pneumonia in the sheep population of Northern Ireland.

Computerized and has nothing to do with humans.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24930203

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More pneumonia patients are admitted during the periods of greater rainfall and rain-wetting may be an important risk factor for the occurrence of pneumonia.

This doesn't suggest that rain causes pneumonia.

Your initial statement was: They say they were tested positive for flu viruses.
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Frank_Baker Author
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9 years ago
'' rain-wetting may be an important risk factor for the occurrence of pneumonia.'

Not shower-wetting or swimming on a coastline 'wetting'?
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Educator
9 years ago
@Frank_Baker

Pneumonia ≠ flu
Frank_Baker Author
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9 years ago
Well these articles imply rain and cold causes pneumonia. Did you read the Daily Mail article?
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Educator
9 years ago
Did you read the Daily Mail article?

I don't take scientific evidence or advice from newspaper articles as fact, so no. As for pneumonia, it can be caused by a pathogen or be an auto immune disease.

Pneumonia is an inflammatory condition of the lung affecting primarily the microscopic air sacs known as alveoli. It is usually caused by infection with viruses or bacteria and less commonly other microorganisms, certain drugs and other conditions such as autoimmune diseases.
Frank_Baker Author
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9 years ago
it isn't too hard to see how moisture or cold air could cause inflammation to the lungs.
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Educator
9 years ago
Inflammation is blood-deep.

Read up on the inflammatory response.
Frank_Baker Author
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9 years ago
Ever heard of frostbite? Or chilblains. The cold (or even humidity!) damages capillaries on the skin, causing an inflammatory response. If this occurs in the lungs, there would be an inflammatory response, as well. Some chemicals can cause pneumonia as they damage lung tissue.

Tissue can become inflamed from the cold. How are the lungs different?
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Educator
9 years ago
The cold (or even humidity!) damages capillaries on the skin, causing an inflammatory response.

Actually, it causes no responses. During harsh cold conditions, blood is restricted away from your skin via vasoconstriction to prevent the loss of heat. As a result, inflammation cannot occur.
Frank_Baker Author
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9 years ago
Well blood is constantly being pumped within the lungs. If it stopped we'd be dead.
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Educator
9 years ago
Pneumonia is not caused my cold weather. In like saying cold weather causes the common cold.
Frank_Baker Author
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9 years ago
A study by the Common Cold center actually proved that cold feet can in fact cause a cold without the person being exposed to a virus.

Sometimes, there are not just one cause to something.
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9 years ago Edited: 9 years ago, bio_man
A study by the Common Cold center actually proved that cold feet can in fact cause a cold without the person being exposed to a virus.

That's a big claim, and you're wrong.

Sometimes, there are not just one cause to something.

You're right, but the common cold is caused by the Rhinovirus, not cold feet.
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