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fodog414 fodog414
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9 years ago
 Crying Face I'm going to attach a few of the problems i'm struggling with. Any help on any problem will go along way. Thanks in advance for those who read my struggle and or help a fellow person out!

Assume that a and b represent positive real numbers. Simplify the expression
3sqrt{20 a^{7} b^{6}}
into the simplest radical form A sqrt C}, where A and C are either integers or monomials.
Answer: A =  and C =

Change the radical
sqrt7/8
into simplest radical form A/B sqrt{C}, where A, B, and C are all integers.

The expression
sqrt^4(x^4 y^2}

equals x^r y^s where
r, the exponent of x, is: 
s, the exponent of y, is:


The expression
(6 x^{2} y^{-4/5})^{5}(4 y^{2})^{1/2}

equals n x^r / y^t where
n, the coefficient, is: 
r, the exponent of x, is: 
t, the exponent of y, is: 



Rewrite the following expressions using just one rational exponent. Enter the numerator and denominator of the exponent. Cancel any common factors.
(u^{3}/{2}^{4/5 = u^a/b where a=   and b =  .
(z^{4/3)^9/2 = z^a/b where a=   and b =  .

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Assume that a and b represent positive real numbers. Simplify the expression
3sqrt{20 a^{7} b^{6}}
into the simplest radical form A sqrt C}, where A and C are either integers or monomials.
Answer: A =  and C =

You know that sqrt(x) = x1/2 ?
You can do that and get: 3sqrt{20*a7*b6} = 3*{20*a7*b6}1/2 = 3*(20)1/2*(a7)1/2*(b6)1/2 = 3*201/2*(a7)1/2*(b6*(1/2))
As you see, only the member (b6)1/2 can be simplified and become b3. The other exponents can't be simplified, so we will turn them back into sqrt.
3*(b3)*201/2*(a7)1/2 = 3*(b3)*[20*(a7)]1/2 = 3*(b3)*sqrt[20*(a7)]
So A=3*(b3) and C=20*(a7)

Or, you can simply do: 3sqrt{20*a7*b6}=3sqrt{20*a7}*sqrt{b6} = 3*b3*sqrt{20*a7} . This is exactly the same method, but instead of using the exponent 1/2, we use sqrt.

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Change the radical
sqrt7/8
into simplest radical form A/B sqrt{C}, where A, B, and C are all integers.
It took me some time to figure it, but it's actually quite simple:
sqrt(7/8) = sqrt(7*2/8*2) = sqrt(14/16) = sqrt14/sqrt16 = sqrt14/4 = (1/4)*sqrt14
so A=1 B=4 C=14

Do you understand so far? I'll answer the rest later
fodog414 Author
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9 years ago
Hey alexx!  Slight Smile

i'm following you on the sqrt7/8 problem but your losing me on 3sqrt{20 a^{7} b^{6}}

I tried plugging in your solution and it came out incorrect, so something must be afoot. hmm
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9 years ago
Sorry for not updating, yes it seems that this solution can be further simplified.

Let's start again.
Let's mention some properties of the sqare root that we will use:
a) sqrt(a*b*c) = sqrt(a)*sqrt(b)*sqrt(c) (Note: the same doesn't apply for sqrt(a+b+c)
b) sqrt(ax) = ax/2 (as I said at the previous post, sqrtx= x1/2, and that property is the result of this.)
c) And, of course, the most basic property is sqrt(x)*sqrt(x)=x.

Now, let's start:
3sqrt(20*a7*b6) =(we use the property a)   3sqrt20*sqrt(a7)*sqrt(b6)
Now we will use the property b). As you see, it will only be useful on sqrt(b6) (if we use it on sqrt(20) or sqrt(a7) we won't get integer or mononym, since a mononym must have integer expotent)
And that's how we get to the result:
3sqrt(20)*sqrt(a7*b6/2 = 3*b3*sqrt(20)*sqrt(a7) = (using a again) 3*b3*sqrt(20*a7)
That's what I did before, but I had missed something. Let's go back to 3*b3*sqrt(20)*sqrt(a7). From there, we can do: 3*b3*sqrt(4*5)*sqrt(a7) = (using a) 3*b3*sqrt(4)*sqrt(5)*sqrt(a7) = 3*b3*2*sqrt(5)*sqrt(a7) = 6*b3**sqrt(5*a7)

Now, for the other exercises:
root4(x4*y2) (you know, sqrt means sqare root, which is the 2nd root only)
Anyways, the property a applies to all roots.
However, for the property b we have:
rooty(ax) = ax/y (in the case of the square root, y=2)
Similarly, for property c we have:
rooty(a)*rooty(ax)*.... (multiplying y times)... *rooty(ax) = a (so, for example root4(a)*root4(a)*root4(a)*root4(a)=a

So, we have: root4(x4*y2) = root4(x4) * root4(y2) = (using property b) x4/4 * y2/4 = x*y1/2
So, r=1 and s=1/2

Next:
(6*x2*y-4/5)5*(4*y2)1/2
Some properties that we will use:
d) (a*b*c)x = ax*bx*cx
e) (ax)y= ax*y
f) ax*ay = ax + y
And, of course, you probably know that a = a1
So, we have: (6*x2*y-4/5)5*(4*y2)1/2 = (using d)  65*(x2)5*(y-4/5)5*41/2*(y2)1/2
You know that 4=22, so we have:
65*(x2)5*(y-4/5)5*(22)1/2*(y2)1/2
Now, we use property e:
65*(x2*5)*(y(-4/5)*5)*(22*(1/2))*(y2*(1/2)) = 65*(x10)*(y-4)*2*y = 2*65*x10*y-4*y1 = (we use f for the y) 2*65*x10*y-4 + 1 = 2*65*x10*y-3

Now, 2*65=2*6*6*6*6*6=15552 (n=15552- use a calculator to be sure)
r=10
t=-3

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Rewrite the following expressions using just one rational exponent. Enter the numerator and denominator of the exponent. Cancel any common factors.
These are just examples of property e. Should be easy:
(u3/2)4/5 = u(3/2)*(4/5) = u12/10 = u6/5 a= 6 b=5
(z4/3)9/2 = z(4/3)*(9/2) = z(36/6) = z6 a=6 b=1

Check for calculation mistakes
And, make 2 questions/thread other time
fodog414 Author
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9 years ago
Ahhh yes most of this is clicking THANK YOU !! Slight Smile Slight Smile

For... Assume that a and b represent positive real numbers. Simplify the expression
3sqrt{20 a^{7} b^{6}}
into the simplest radical form A sqrt C}, where A and C are either integers or monomials.
Answer: A =  and C =

Still came up short for both a and c, but your logic makes sense, hmmm

The only other problem was for sqrt^4(x^4 y^2}
in which t= positive 3 not negative 3.

But really alexx thank you again!!
fodog414 Author
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9 years ago
As an update I was able to figure out 3 sqrt(20 a^7 b^6)

alternative version of square root is 1/2

so root of 20
4      x        5
2 x 2

3 x 2=6

the tricky part was noting that instead of a^7, we can take an "a" out to make a^6

so,

(a^6)^1/2=
a^3

(b^6)^1/2=
b^3

ending results

6a^3b^3 sqrt(5a)

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9 years ago
Sorry for not updating

That is correct, in addition about the other problem, I didn't see that it was xr/yt. Because it is on the denominator, the - will become +. (because a-x=1/ax)
fodog414 Author
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9 years ago
It's perfectly okay,

Thank you again!
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