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8 years ago Edited: 8 years ago, oem7110
Referring to following video, it talks about the pattern on Fibonacci numbers, which is found on nature, but it does not mention what the fundamental issue is causing this Fibonacci ratio based on nature.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what the root cause is and how nature works on Fibonacci ratio ?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions

The Fibonacci Sequence: Nature's Code


Arthur Benjamin: The magic of Fibonacci numbers


Gods Fingerprint→ The Fibonacci Sequence - Golden Ratio and The Fractal Nature of Reality

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On the other words, what controls those Fibonacci ratio in nature?
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"So here is the mystery; all of the rotation rates of the planet pairs in the solar system listed below the break are in ratios where the numbers on each side of the ratio add to a number in the Fibonacci sequence. Clearly, it is possible to get more accurate ratios by going to much higher numbers, but given that the ratios we have determined are all well within 1% of true values, and many within 0.1%, we didn’t see the need. This is such a remarkable result that it really ought to be a wake up call to astrophysicists to start taking an interest in their local solar system, in addition to hunting for exoplanets and galaxies. Since we have found many other phi and Fibonacci relationships in planetary data orbital elements and synodic periods too, the obvious implication of our result is that there is some kind of link between rates of axial rotation and orbital periods. We aim to discover what it is, how it comes about, and ultimately answer the question; Why Phi?"


Why the Phi do all these planetary rotation ratios add to Fibonacci numbers?
https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2013/09/13/why-the-phi-do-all-these-planetary-rotation-ratios-add-to-fibonacci-numbers/
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More significantly both Fibonacci numbers and the Golden Ratio can be found in the DNA of every cell in our bodies. Jean-Claude Perez discovered a DNA supracode controlling the self-organization of the nucleotides Thiamine, Cytosine, Adenine and Guanine (T,C,A,G), which make up the steps in the double helix ladder of DNA. He discovered if you consider 144 contiguous nucleotides it results from 55 T bases and 89 C A G bases, all Fibonacci numbers. These resonances extend to the ratios of the Atomic Weights of the Bio-Atoms of Carbon, Oxygen, Nitrogen and Hydrogen that create the nucleic bases of T C A G, such that the ratios of atomic weights are equal to Phi, the Golden Ration of 1.618. Thus, even within the basic building blocks of our bodies Fibonacci sequences and Phi exists at a primal level.

Ref : Fibonacci and the Golden Ratio
http://www.fibonaccilifechart.com/research
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8 years ago Edited: 8 years ago, duddy
Cool video, many thanks for sharing it. The first time I heard about this sequence was in first year calculus, though I never put much thought into - the 1st video sums it up nicely. In terms of why nature uses it, I personally have no clue, but the guy says the golden ratio (1.61803398875) is the most efficient.
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8 years ago
The idea that the Golden Ratio and Fibonacci sequence occurs everywhere in nature and human esthetics is regarded by many as a pure myth:

http://nautil.us/issue/0/the-story-of-nautilus/math-as-myth
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/pseudo/fibonacc.htm (go to Fibonacci Foolishness)
http://dropbox.bachnetwork.co.uk/ub1/tatlow.pdf (Here's one that debunks some of the claims in music specifically)

In short, it's everywhere because people are insistent on trying to find it everywhere. It is no different than looking up into the sky and seeing a cloud that looks like an elephant.
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8 years ago Edited: 8 years ago, oem7110
If cell growth is self-divided from 1 into 2, 2 into 4, 4 into 8, then the growth ratio is 2 and there is no Fibonacci sequence in nature.

If 2 cells are required to work together to generate 1 new cell, so 2 into 3 (2 original cells + 1 new cell), (3 / 2 = 1.5) is closer to 1.618, but it is still not getting closer to 1.618,

If 3 cells are required to work together to generate 1 new cell, so 3 into 4 (3 original cells + 1 new cell), then the growth rate is getting farther than 1.5 (4 / 3 = 1.33), so nature seems working with a pair of cells for growth.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how math works out based on 2 cells growth and getting closer to 1.618 instead of 1.5?
Thanks, to everyone very much for any suggestions :>



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Fibonacci gets to do with energy efficient.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how it related to energy efficient?
Thanks, to everyone very much for any suggestions :>


"13-year-old Aidan Dwyer used the Fibonacci sequence to devise a more efficient way to collect solar energy.

The Fibonacci sequence shows up in the patterns of branches and leaves on trees. Aidan, having been mesmerized by tree-branch patterns during a winter hike in the Catskills, sought to investigate why."



http://www.mirakelley.com/how-to-use-the-fibonacci-sequence-to-collect-solar-energy/
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Aidan Dwyer: Better solar designs

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Spinning a Helical Resonant Chamber (Impeller) - 200 Watts moving 10 MILLION Gallons of Water

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We live in 3 dimension world, but learn in 2 dimension.

It seems that Fibonacci works efficient in 3 dimension physical world.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how physics work in 3 dimension world?
Thanks, to everyone very much for any suggestions :>
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