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11 years ago
I'm reading about cellular respiration, I have 2 different sources telling me different things. One source tells me that after CO2 is released during the Pyruvate Dehydrogenase Complex reaction, that an acetate compound is formed. Another source is telling me that an acetyl group is formed.

I looked it up and they do not seem to be the same thing. Where is the confusion?
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11 years ago
They are definitively not the same, if you could post your reaction, i can help you tell wich is formed.

an acetyl group is the folowing: CH3  -  C(=O)  -  R
that is  a methyl group bonded to a carbonyll group bonded to something, usualy an alkane chain.

Acetate however is CH3 - C(=O) - O - R
that is a methyl group bonded to a carbonyll group bonded to an oxygen atom, bonded to R.
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11 years ago
this is a the general class of compounds called carboxylic acids...
......O
.......||
R - C - OH

this is a specific carboxylic acid called acetic acid
...... ...O
...... ....||
CH3 - C - OH

this is an ester.
.....O
......||
R - C - O-R'
where R and R' can be any hydrocarbon or substituted hydrocarbon.  and esters end in -ate...

this is ethyl acetate...
...........O
...........||
CH3 - C - O-CH2-CH3
the right part of the molecule, -CH2-CH3, is ethyl.  the rest of this ester is based on acetic acid.  Hence the name "acetate"

this is the general form of acetate group...
...........O
...........||
CH3 - C - O -

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this is acetyl...
...........O
...........||
CH3 - C -
it is not a carboxylic acid.. it's doesn't have that O on the right.

this is acetyl chloride.
...........O
...........||
CH3 - C - Cl...

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the acetate and the acetyl group behave very differently.
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