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Odiseizam Odiseizam
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11 months ago Edited: 11 months ago, Odiseizam
Yesterday happened unusual tragedy for balkans, an first mass shooting by 13 year old in primary school in Belgrade (Serbia) where were killed by planned (and not random) massacre prepared with larger designated list of targets, what ended with nine killed 8 children and 1 security guard [1][1] and if compared to the trend in usA for example in this case the age is lower in comparison!

Now not that just mass shootings are regular tragedy in modern history, kid war soldiers (on frontline or streets) are somehow regular appearance altho is not raised extra hype about that, but defacto we can all sense that cruel violence is on the rise more and more from decade to decade even in the western wealthy realm from decade to decade reaching level almost of pandemic now!, So What Are The Prime Reasons that are contributing to such lust for blood?

a. Television
b. Poverty
c. Social Networks
d. Parental neglectance
e. School safety incompetence
f.  School competing curriculum
g. Isolation
h. Gaming

Hm, guess everything from the numbered has contribution in different cases mids the current neoliberal social environment on west, but particular problem think is ISOLATION in case of mass shootings, actually as always those that are ridiculed bullied and in a way socially ostracized as forgotten probably are building up pressure till psychopathic revenge that once is stimulated by constant social network repeat (even not necessary by offenses but) by the presence among the school friends or shared content that maybe is offending for some kid then the same either will get in suicidal or killa mode [][][] (yeah gangsta rap plays huge role as booster even when consumed accidentally) what in most cases could be sensed and noticed (tho with those kids that are extrovert) but not all are open and brag about their ideas aloud, and even when done that who would expect that on soc.nets algorithms are scanning potential risk behaviors among kids so promptly the system would react!, eg. in the last case the kid indeed showed some signs but in times of wide triviality or commercialization of halloween and horror culture overall who would say that that can play role [3][3] yep in China tiktok can serve only as diy shareware for kids even grownups but in usA even for dopeman smileys what about "Dont You Know Im Locco" and surely that will mirror eventually somewhere disastrous if kids are not monitored as if are going in zoo and not school [4] actually whole world is burnt by the neoliberal hollywood horror mood (somehow dark energy is western neopagan hype thus almost as if is stimulated such export by the excuse even of acceptable coz just doing bussiness [5]) yet we all act as if that is normal side effect of the need for servicing macroeconomic stability by consumerism (or cia is stimulating evil so in time would be picked up the same and would not burst as latent later mids eventual inequality riots due to neoliberal exploitation of the broilers) unlike on west where kids are either going from dumb to dumber by challenges many times dread and/or becoming hotspot by all sexploitation or violent ultraliberal wild west culture that consumed by profit all especially kids through the gaming industry altho think the wrong raiser edge goes through all mediums for adoring everything antichristian  what maybe is not noticeable enough but think once kgbt agenda was embraced in Serbia the earlier normal balkan macho boy vibe which by itself was maybe violent Yet after that as transition towards west became mindbogglingly pervert mold on various levels altho by irony as new blueprint was sold like oh dont worry its just portrayal of your past but actually was occult dark occupation on many levels [6] now this maybe as observation dont looks scientific and cant be measured empirically and calculate the odds how influential is as antichristian vibe Yet as someone who has some experience and praxis with the spiritual realm with clear consciousness will say wrong causality provokes wrong societal trends what on west tho was and is right after tamed and/or suppressed by even wronger risk management as palliative psycho care through turbo-wrong chemical'balance'theory whether legally whether illegally [7][8][9] thus I will conclude that the problem of championing violence is Social per'se ~ yeah adoring cage'pitbull'fights as occult gambling trance of MMA full'contact'deaths since small legs and that further pumped by millimeter agitprop on steroids through the preferred soc.net where selfesteem is harnessed by daily shots of adrenaline boost by likes for the shared kicks!, I mean even when I see how for history is pumped up animosity between tiktokers from neighboring countries or by local ethnic groups (plus how such vibe goes from faster to faster) I am really starting to grasp why the current euroatlantic globalists of transhumanists want all to be hived, BUT as if intentionally is left everyone to get fried on soc.nets even kids, all neatly packed in repetitive triviality voyeurism violence vanity hate lusts greed envy body occultism and frustrating unreachable trends of consumerist perfection by fastfood paradox for hydroxycut lean torso of labbed diet ideals, name it every possible vice is present virtually but what coz we are spending more time online than in reality for many is becoming indeed wrong reality how is constantly pumped by fears greed or pride, hm as one study says 50% of the reasons for divorce in usA is facebook!, So go keep the kids more happy and less monstrous!, especially problem when by the fluffy standards of modern parenting whatever wrong menace of behavior  cant be reset by corporal punishment but it can be only talked out eventually by yelling altho even that can be penalized by the system with loosing of the parenting right!, and I'll understand that molesting of Kids by drunkard or junkie parent should be forbidden and promptly evaded or stopped, but to be forbidden slap coz 24/7 tilting on smartphone or comp that hm is sure path towards yeah huxlean chemical balance blueprint for all ~ eventually tomorrow through the daily meals delivered by drones!
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11 months ago
Sad to hear a mass-shooting like that occurred in Serbia, of all places. I've been to Serbia before, and I have nothing but good things to say about its culture and people. When I went nearly eight years ago, there was a lot of pro-Russian, pro-Putin sentiment. They appeared to be a cohesive group, but now I see a lot of EU and NATO influence on the government, which only gets pushed onto the younger generation through policy and advocacy, leading the most vulnerable to stray from traditional values.

I think technology plays a major impact on the love two people might have for one another. If not Facebook, it's Instagram or TikTok that influences couples in the most terrible ways. The longer women use Facebook, the more they are influences by worldly trends, As the proverb goes, a man saves a woman from the world, while a woman saves a man from himself. If you add a third factor being social media, it makes it very hard for a man or woman in a relationship to compete against, so it's best to simply get rid of these things as soon as you're married. In fact, in a normal Christian society, traditionally God would be the third 'person' in the relationship, but that has been replaced by worldly pleasures, like technology.
Odiseizam Author
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11 months ago
Every time has its own temptations through the history, and seeing things purely through reductionist perspective (as sociology psychology criminology and politics that waits on them for explanations solutions strategy actions) probably many experts would say the system is complex thing but its prepared to coup with various social turmoils, when its also logical to exist risks and level of effectiveness so particular mechanism to be employed eg. paradigm shift in context of violence or criminal, altho how to the neoliberal hype is given wide consumeristic space for selling whatever could be sold even fear or whatever tormenting molesting exploitative emotional sensationalism when even on news the societies are constantly under pressure and consequently through art trained on braking taboos while exploring and exploiting the possibilities for profit THEN its not at all strange how we are all grinding traditional culture and gluing popular even subcultural trends in amorphous globalist stew THEN its even more secured path towards social entropy to which technocrats how times rush on the hedonic treadmill so it will the hunger of scientists to accept everything to get borgged down so would be easily kept in some normal line even mids tensions even mids crisis!. yet the changing neuroplasticity of the stormed brains by regular shock therapy through tv and soc.nets is becoming addicted to violence, especially when how are covered wars as in almost gaming mode normally will pump indifference and coldness of many hearths rationalizing whatever events like Pray not to come "here"!, altho its already projected by the media as if it is already "here" but coz its virtual so it becomes indeed like gaming experience, Hm can we be programed by such global terrible trivial or tragic social cultural and political reality THINK Yes!, and on this crucial influence nowadays would have (the mass commercial political or scientific reflexes coz "prosperity") pushed as attack on our mentality behavior and emotions (as collectively so as individually) by Propaganda as existential western tool [1][1] for training obedience policing control and tumbling economic share what eventually is ending in particular molding of our Psyche and trends what is or its not acceptable as normal needed or regulated behavior!

Yet again history can serve as pivot how this indeed is case and how indeed we can be programed till extremes when are exposed personally to some shock therapy eg. like local balcanian example I'll use one for many probably hilarious instant by emotional rush in commie bulgarian times some kids mirrored what saw in theaters, hm some will say the case was maybe arranged for training citizens to be wary for the western art that it can be disastrous for the behavior thus framed societal agitprop in form of "appeal to fear" what think was operational methodology for commie repellence of what is comming from west ~ what actually was indeed western infiltration for conquest by art especially movies industry back in those days, still maybe the next footnoted case is not such spin and we can see it also as accidental event of psycho uncountability [2][2][2] but even like that we can say we are unconsciously programmed or deprogramed for violence even when reading books what about when choking in interactive media where altho coz the overindulgence from extremes we are becoming passivized, yeah till dont dive in centrifuges like soc.nets and particularly programable addictive nature of shorting on tiktok where especially kids are at huge risks!, the rest probably grown and can control such pressure of selfindulging, yet who knows what is going around someones corrupt loosen violent arrogant enraged exceptional brains of many eg. older population tilting on legal or illegal stimulants!?, what about when by such deviations are exposed kids hm maybe in same time on prescribed medications that mixed with wrong drugs can provoke even wronger psychosis!?.

In essence whoever would get ambitious to secure greater societal stability as on criminal so as on psychological level will say hope things will stay less widespread ~ what eventually is unpredictable even by IoB total hiving of all coz reaching heaven'on'earth is simply impossible!, yet think if there is constant sociological debate as locally so as regionally but also globally on wide public eforum debate by all complementary experts probably will be reached some more lasting balance ahead even mids global economic depression!,  when managing quickly an next level standardization for normal modern communication and livability in the concrete jungles will be met even by urbanism and various responses for defensive spaces for chasing calming (oval) mindset  [3][3][3] or the prime defense will be appearance and subsidizing of local soc.networks where is more easier to observe some local realm of interconnected minors!, having them on hook if such local soc,nets would be tied to some benefactions like free public transport coz active there etc. etc., what if and when it will be mixed with national local or global media control eg. by pumping less wrong pressure (secured by stiff public standardization) and/or eg. if not depriving then establishing extra'small'window for horror trends to be positioned high as subcultural hype!. yeah woodoo people magic people was singing the prodigy of abomination
 in '90s what eventually as lets get wrong hype now is indeed on steroids as woodoo mindset doll of human experimentation mids wrong free for all electronic society!
Odiseizam Author
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11 months ago
What a nightmare Serbia got shocked by another spree, suddenly many psychos got motivated to step out from closet and immediately day after young adult gunned down 8 neighbors, what cant be explained anyhow else but through wrongly suppressed societal tensions which as cultural political economical direct or indirect pressure erupted by triggering rage in more than probably (I'll say possessed souls) psychopaths how without any drop of empathy executed innocent souls, what tho I'll say that is not rare occurrence when living in loneliness, altho in the mentioned cases in this thread obviously was question about situated and somehow active psychos, so if depression or poverty is not an motive then maybe the reason is programing!?, what usually is done like personal entrapment of the personality due to brainwashed mental orientation as reflex of choking with violence through tv net and/or gaming what in particular group or society its just question when it will materialize like mirror  eg. from k1 ufc mma idolatry in streefight esotery, or from tv'war'agitprop in local egotripping, from sexplotation in fetish deviations etc. abnormal social behaviors, culminating by wild west macho picnicking!

Must add when addressing above in the previous post the vices of capitalism as commercialization of fear and violence it should be also added that to this extra contribute secularization and particularly decristianization on west and from there exported around the World plain demonology whether through music movie or gaming industry, what has surely effect on all Youth when by loosing Grace is becoming more and more open to anger and violence consequently on what additionally cargo is loneliness due to virtual isolation trends for socializing by tilting on soc.nets when instead real normal friendship the same is chased virtually by like gratitude for gaining selfesteem what eventually as complex personal trap instead to be relieving is becoming frustrating experience when even coz likecoholism [1][1] it can be triggered some possessed soul to cross the edge i.e. from the current mostly sociopathic atmosphere of simulated socialization (not all are perfect yet act thus ultra pressure for masked tied faked uniqueness) from such grinding extroverts go in introverts and vice versa so it looks like it easily someone to end up in psychopathic chase for gratification even till finding pleasure in evil acts or coz popularity making them acceptable that if its compared with the recent belgrade massacre its obvious as correlation eg. the statements for popularity [1][1]

Now except capitalism as base [2] also it could be seen as contributing pillar the recent globalist meekness trend for parenting Kids by sweet talks and exclusion of the corporal punishment what in my opinion is debacle as response when some Kid will cross the red lines [3][3][3] yes I'll understand that mids capitalism in low income families due to poverty hardships can arose molesting instead parenting of corporal reward and punishment still the current trend think is hilarious knowing how the families are not isolated and there are not grandparents around to help out and ease the burden thus think when some Kid is left on its own hometilting normally that there is risk to built wrong habits and that reckless behavior which once get in horror mode there is no other way for correcting than by authoritative slaps!, btw yelling think not that is not effective as regular routine but also molesting thing that lasts far far longer than slab or but kick!, as supposedly by 24/7 yelling happiness will rule around, yeah and as we can see rulz, I mean I'll understand that teachers shouldnt use corporal punishment but parent cmon, normally that like that in many Kids will grow selfconfidence for greater and greater menace, altho by regular pain punishment also suppressed frustrations can lead to volcano waiting to burst, so from one hand many Kids make dread challenge copying (from tv net or their environment) solely coz it were not regulated in time by parent authoritative penalties, but also in many cases the reason for psychopatic tendencies is due to molesting, thus the solution is somewhere inbetween as moderate level and type of corporal punishment as last measure of correcting kids behavior at home, tho cant say that I base my reasoning on studies but personal experience thus it need to be found some scientific logic how much is too much for what kind of wrong behavior [4] yet now (at least in europe) is left on the kids to build loosen responsibility even from smallest legs even when will play with el.sockets to name banal example tho there are many terrifying like playing with knives or pornography or GTA as if parents can watch over every e-move of the kids what even if its doable [5][5] still if such possibility is not heavily promoted by the schools (so parents would be educated) and so such duty it would become unwritten norm, then its question how wide effect could be achieved like their personal responsibility, needless to say but not all parents are knowledgeable or willing to use computers what about engage in regular net surveillance!, eventually for problematic kids by law mandated and tied to penalties if the kid networking is not monitored by the parents or as such it could be left on the social services, yet even then if some kid is stubbornly unobedient again if the parent cant slap him preventivelly then that Kid it will reach sooner or later psychiatric ladder for correcting behavior by chemical balance theory [6] eg. altho for many movie like purge or games like gta or soc.net content for grown altho there is Rating still there are many cheats and camouflages that suppose are used by Kids so would play or watch +18 content, not to talk about Kids from the third world where having firearm in hand is normal thing but still dont happens in schools massacres, ask Yourself why!, guess there Fathers can beat the crap out of their Children if anyhow misuse weapon, and/or will throw him on street quickly!, interestingly there due to poverty probably regular personal socialization is still norm thus rarely someone can cross from sociopathy in psychopathy I guess when even from start any frustration is released through the group, but go reach such valve virtually who who to notice that has issue or how at all there to deal with it!?, in essence until there is not local alternative for fakebook instagram tiktok etc. alike soc.nets where Kids behavior and risks towards will be monitored till then it would be ineffective approach whatever is done, simply Kids need alternative and ideally not just local one but also tied to the schools directly or indirectly as I've said such shift boosted by some subsidizing as bait eg, free public transport etc.
 
Odiseizam Author
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11 months ago
on what additionally cargo is loneliness due to virtual isolation trends for socializing by tilting on soc.nets when instead real normal friendship the same is chased virtually by like gratitude for gaining selfesteem what eventually as complex personal trap instead to be relieving is becoming frustrating experience when even coz likecoholism [1][1] it can be triggered some possessed soul to cross the edge

Hm, can we discern personally when particular neural reward system is becoming addictive due to networking, an "info rush" of satisfaction to which can hook even Innocent Souls while sharing virtual napkins, or even Monks if get trapped in multiplayer mode while debating arguing explaining Theology, even Grannies when searching the perfect arthritis or longevity recipe ..... i.e. as unnoticeable behavioral addiction virtual socialization can pull in dopamine lust for attention everyone even the most emotionally intelligent people when if not else coz defense of their Religion if and when attacked sooner or later will get electrified to respond somehow in despise or contempt even that was done eloquently!, simply on wrongly flushed and wrongly managed e'tools like vlogs/blogs and soc.nets or eforums sooner or later many will get carried by egoism which is far more devastating from materialism or hedonism that thrive by default on net as Pride me up scotty hype the very first moment someones identity is revealed!, actually on these prime steps we all fall in our life but when tempted in reality we feel the responsibility by law walking around and the effects of our own responses by vivid close direct physical and emotional contact ~ altho not aware about even by extrasensory perception coz bioresonance!, but when the same temptations are popping up in and come from the virtual world and especially if there we've mirrored own personality as official profile then coz the safe zone distance if not coz the general vibe many are trapped 24/7 in perfectionist if not superiority complex thus 1. bursting by default in defense mode when get buzzed and 2. forgetting by default that on the other side of the screen are live people, side kick tho that can come also through hidden avatars coz as masked its easier to play virtual life without any shame or responsibility, still as we can see knowing how the western neoliberalism thrown all cards on marketing on selfpromotion on competing mood So most of the Mankind while hooked eg. on soc.nets wanting or not is after making idols!, what can be easily noticed when it will be taken for examination just the "challenge trend" when what counts is not the friendship through game but the praise coz efficacy or stupidity, whatever just so people would be noticed and actually say hello in creative or goofy way and like that noticed grabbing attention till flush some gratification dopamine and find meaning in their lost 4 walled life!, yeah this eforuming of mine could be seen like that too yet I am doing this from joy to had a hand to Society on right debating manner through right debating tool, and maybe this the prime problem nowadays thus coz lack of effective eTOS on soc.net criteria for following are emotional grabbers robbers rapers or as shrinks labels them sociopaths schizoids psychopaths and alike, so now half world population hooked on feed scrolling and voila we have one nice scenario towards borg dem down all coz will eat eachother!, and "someone" will execute it if its left!, altho as I can notice more and more that trap is getting obvious thus eventually as egoism on steroids will evaporate once eventual global economic crisis blooms [1][1] coz then (waiting right around the corner as now) many will be forwarded on togetherness thus loosening the current individualistic egoistic trending en'masse and as consequence less electrified when buzzed virtually from the other side of the screen, hm but what if by transhumanist inertia we become screens!?, so be careful what You wish for [1][1]

Bottom Line ...... And when on that individualist prone idolizing hype will be added Voyaerism [1][1] and Likeholism [2][2][2] we can clearly see that especially those trapped on soc.nets are getting addicted and overpowered by the wrongly employed e-society!, wrongly coz debating on soc.nets and chitchating on eforum and choking on vlogs while there acting experts (now boosted expertise through tiktok scroll lobotomy what would be good as emergence and etool if indeed experts were tiktoking but when triviality hedonism or violence is there an prime hype then normally that many especially among the Youth will dress up frustrating complexes > the last bolt to all western hypocrisy of "democracy export" > again, almost as if intentionally is left such ultraliberal trends to loom so later through problem solution skim to be triggered mass net control, or even in more perfidious way executed such panopticon and due to manufactured social risks we ourselves to ask for stiff "social credit system"!, coz simply like that eventual hesitancy and call for wide public debate before implementation will be evaded and technocratic panopticon imposed as "they" like, the wrong m'rna vaxing hype comes to mind ~ altho it will take some manufactured burst of soc.net motivated violence so the masses would swallow the bait and ask for change!, simply "they" chase transhumanist superhumanity and utopian new'world'order thus need "own" technocratic instead democratic pace for smoother implementation of globalist agendas, suppose already neatly envisioned tempered and released in phases so would be slipped instantly in our communities, for what I see as obvious example the intentionally wrong regulation of soc.nets yeah crunching only the narrative that dont suits "their" agendas!, eg. antivaxing can be even erased while commercial violence sexism and gluttony flow freely, always finding corrupt excuses how private companies are in question thus cant be tackled their coding or questioning their platform, leaving all to be balanced through trial&erros from own experience, while as system chasing regulation only for "terrorist risk" but not for wrong subcultural or sinful trends!, altho that should be provoked by the academia somehow yet who where to complain or give idea nowadays mids closed system ~ actually prime reason for eTOS inertia so any eventual change would be reached through constant public debate among the experts and the public on eforums, here the public should attend trough ngo's reexperting the experts on institutional eforums!. ~ but on contrary there is no focus on balancing of the levers or the norms or the wrong trends, and to be honest its strikingly suspicious to me that "they" dont care what will happen with the e-society but "they" just need all to be catalogized and tied in global policing soc.net whether coz easier surveillance or smooth programing of the urban broilers as "they" see us!

Hm, is it mistake to question particular wrongly imposed globalist agenda?, hm think not!, altho as SamV says (see the next footnote) when someone of the plebs sees elites of politicians and scientists as wrong then he is definitely seldelusional narcisist, hm hm hm as if "they" are not especially how act errorless atlantean perpetumobile with "their" informal think tanks of euroatlantic determinists gathered under the bilderborgian davosian or bohemian umbrella, on contrary "they" by design are wrong when dont allow neatly arranged eTOS reality but again and again peddling all to embrace and follow "their" wrong superape and n'w'o agenda, thus questioning "them" with articulated arguments however offending to "their" ego sounds that its not some inner selfish reflex (eg. of mine) or coz some frustration marching, but citizens policing through public auditing and creative help So if not "they" at least Mankind would grasp where "their" wrong stamina and agendas are pushing us all!

Must emphasize that SamV has really revealing psychological anamnesis of societal effects of soc.nets, and I'll point out as extra informative his interview on PMF already linked (by mistake) as 3rd tagged video in the first post above, here is the another version of the same [3] kind of crash course real life resocialization by having reminder how You are lobotomized through soc.nets (logically run away from them if get aware for the risks) ... still I'll remove as wrong diagnosis few parts eg. 1. where he is addressing antivaxers as narcisists - what would be biased stance of his if we have in mind that their claims has proven correct regards the experimental biotech mandated by coercion [4]-[4] but also 2. think its wrong to throw in same basket antielitists as if elites should be praised even when wrong altho he in that line is alluding on eventual wrong sick relationship among common people and elites, 3. also there is some indirect labeling of religious people as phantasmagorical altho if we know that the current wrongly imposed humanism as exceptional arose from western alchemy and on top rest on wrong neoplatonist base [5][5][5][6][6][6] thus through all its inertia bringing and pushing wrong utopian eugenic fantasy ...... So I'll say at best he needs to expand the F labeling to the current humanist academia too!, still I'll say he has many ultra interesting observations regards soc.nets and their effects on personality or how to be recognized as loophole for particular molesting by sociopaths shizoids and psyshopaths, as he underline normal people will refuse to hang on such place even all friends and family tilt there!, about what I am fully aligned tho I rest my observation on some metaphysical level as personal experience where all connected and interlinked are also spiritually tied in particular vortexes what eventually has wrong reflections on the well being when like it or not all share same as positive so as (and mostly) negative vibe which as such sometimes is more pronounced by A. egoistic some by B. mammonistic and some by C. hedonistic pitch, eventually to the same can be put mask and we will get A. psycho B. shizo or C. sociop outlook of someones personality, tho the problem gets multiplied when some group is driven by common vibe and like that mirroring around even greater negative reflections!, and in the end 4. there is some wrong defeatism of his something like the freemasonic motto for ordo'ab'chao scenario so "their" phoenix would raise from the ashes [7] what is at best narcisist conclusion while at worst psyshopatic solution so the societies will have fresh start after total clean up of all unwanted circumstances So yeah he is kind biased from wrong humanist scientific exceptionalism!. but overall his points are almost unique (lack only case studies of his compatriots among the elites) in this interview per'se about the need of awareness for the soc.net risks but also the need for restraining minors to them (and to it I'll say having separate and heavily regulated monitored and managed local platforms for them) so if not else not all Kids would get addicted to soc.net trivialism if not violence! Anyway I'll suggest to be checked his work too [8] hm one fine interesting read and talk he has which tho it would be interesting to be seen how will flow among continual expert eforum clash at least here in balkans ...



Odiseizam Author
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11 months ago Edited: 11 months ago, Odiseizam
history can serve as pivot how this indeed is case and how indeed we can be programed till extremes when are exposed personally to some shock therapy programing!?,what usually is done like personal entrapment of the personality due to brainwashed mental orientation as reflex of choking with violence through tv net and/or gaming what in particular group or society its just question when it will materialize like mirror

so if depression or poverty is not an motive then maybe the reason is so if depression or poverty is not an motive then maybe the reason is programing!?, what usually is done like personal entrapment of the personality due to brainwashed mental orientation as reflex of choking with violence through tv net and/or gaming what in particular group or society its just question when it will materialize like mirror

Above in two posts I am pointing to subconscious programing by movie music games net tv alike media, but then again why all Kids dont get in psychopat mode!?, also if some disorder is in question precise calculated and planned monstrous act would not be case, in such cases some claim "sky is falling" paranoia is usual signal and as such in time recognized and resolved!, So must say somehow I am considering for these serbian cases as probable also potential "vog" weapon like manchurian candidate trigger (check the next footnote video) [1][1] must admit this notion fell first on my mind!. but till didnt heard someone else in Serbia to come with such assumption [2] didnt rushed to think aloud!

The Psychologist in the second footnote actually speaks about the cia programs artichoke monarch etc. alike brainwashing and programming assassins [2] what nowadays could be done some say far easier by cortical modem in the head for what its enough graphene oxide in the head [3][3] altho we will need to wait and see whether there will be eventual confirmation were the mass murderers hearing voice getting command being enraged etc. potential programming, maybe the programing came from gaming or gang selfindoctrination for violence and just in right time were pushed over the edge by particular switch!?

But such kind of conspiracy needs huge geopolitical motives which to some extent exist, the question is are those enough motivating so Serbia would be attacked by special psychological warfare so would be raised tension and crushed the high rating of the current serbian power elites which not that just defied nato by only country not giving sanctions to Russia but also right before these tragedies there was some ultimate deal in arrangement of usA and eU about the status of Kosovo which Serbia didnt embraced fully but stalling it at best while nato is in rush officially to close that issue, so there is logic that such kind of blackmail can be executed by euroatlantic determinists!?, yet first too early to claim certainty about such skim but also difficult to find the source of eventual signaling coz simply it can be done by satellite radiation too [4] and maybe one contributing fact that can give support to this kind of push'from'orbit is that we are not witnessing some isolated tragedy but somehow right after instantly popped an strange wide pattern in Serbia by more than few in various age similar treats for massacres or public acclamation right after the two tragedies, still that can be explained also by suppressed anger now stimulated by the mass murders as if the sane waited to burst so sociopats would find will to step out in public!?, but however this kind of theory to be observed measured or commented till such tech is not officially revealed eg. by the western counterparts till then it would be at best assumption without proof!, and as thesis maybe possible but how likely is the same about those tragedies cant be known for now!

Post Merge: 11 months ago

In context of the last post probability for induced covert brainhack programing, potential main contributing factor for easy (if so in this case I'll say random) hijack of someones psyche could be said that as base main one is the relativization of death though popular culture alone how through art is propagandized violence sexploitation decadence utopianism etc. extremes as very normal consumeristic commodity for entertainment!, what eventually if consumed constantly is shaping and preparing the young psyche in its most effective years for acceptance of cruel shocks, and in such circumstances only lacks some emotional trigger so would be pushed some person or community in rage calmness excitement etc. moods and/or action, what potentially guess could be achieved by bioresonce or biochemical means through particular sonogenetic stimulation!?

Now not that just mass shootings are regular tragedy in modern history, children soldiers (on frontline or streets) are somehow regular appearance also, tho its not raised extra hype about that, but defacto we can all sense that cruel violence is on the rise more and more from decade to decade even in the western wealthy realm what about elsewhere, reaching level almost of pandemic now!, So What Are The Prime Reasons that are contributing to such lust for blood?

Indeed when emotionless mentality is easily achievable, to which most quickly we came through neglectance and indifference about the risk to which are exposed Children through the media and soc.nets, then it should not be strange how so sociopathy is on rise, almost as if we've brake free from fear from the law once embraced neoliberalism and the thirst for profit, what could be noticed just by simple example when finally we've accepted even mercenaries as normal companion to regular militaries what earlier as paratroops were mostly negated as official spear coz by default were doing atrocities earlier (war dogs as are called) yet nowadays that is regular private contractor business, the sad thing is that not rarely depending on the wealth or resources of some country also Adolescents and even Children are misused in such troops!, simply war and killing became normal economic incentive for west that as legal violence is exported all over the world whether in real or "unreal" form!
Odiseizam Author
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11 months ago
As last probability beneath h). in the first post I've numbered gaming too, tho the same is least effective reason eg. Japan altho has the most violent gaming market (or horror perversion of cultural hype probably due to shinto demonology as traditional inheritance) still the related homicides till now never occurred altho this could be also due the harsh weapon laws [1][1] and very dread prosecution [1][1] and penology per'se as worst than gulag "reeducation" [1][1] so violence cant get momentum even +18 rated games are played by minors when whole society is calmed by totalitarian alike policing!, but even in usA due the wide spread inherited gun culture still violent games are rarely motive for massacres yet existing probability once is tied to depression so like cumulative toll to trigger tragedy as voluntary or involuntary manslaughter eg. the case with DavinDT cop killer "recruited" by GTA shooting skills [2][2][2] where GTA maybe was indoctrinating mean and tool for inciting inertia towards particular exhaust valve when under pressure but per'se the trigger think was particular deep emotional stress that coz not at least balanced in time burst ahead!, on contrary if there are not games around as pressure valve like clicking dopamine reward cushioning many Kids will have far greater problem with anger management, thus think far greater risk are soc.nets where coz the burden of socialization and wrong voyaerism when many want to grown up immediately while confined to their own reality of hardships like lack of knowledge creativity even selfconfidence many Young People are getting deep scars once are ridiculed or mobbed, what eventually triggered the mentioned cases in Serbia, simply earlier before the net era whatever happened in school stayed there as bad feeling while now continues 24/7 on soc.nets, and maybe not all Kids will drop in animal mode when got on some pillar of shame or ridiculing but when under constant pressure and enough indoctrinated by violence poured in media as commercial consumerist bait surely if there is not gun around knife will serve the purpose of revenge even the same is executed above innocent Souls!, in Serbia as in usA it was done with guns coz are countries with long warring history Serbia even far greater ancient one thus its tradition to have and own weapon [3] yet there is not even one case as I am aware of shooting spree due to poverty, simply even if there are no guns around again it will happen even in Japan [4] where airsoft became mirror trend for rest of the World [5][5] hm enough said for the sake of airsoft as risk for the society having in mind the japanese murder stats, still policing do plays role and maybe ideal cushioning for places with gun culture is tagging by rfid so at least all "legally walking weapons" would be easily detectable by Police [6] can that balance out violence in usA hm cant tell knowing how huge amount of illegal weapons are in circulation it would be indeed heresy to leave legal owners nakedhanded!, probably thats why "someone" in DoD wants to chip all and monitor even their thoughts so would police them by algorithm sending buzz signal [6][6][6] if and when someone gets wrong adrenaline rush mids urban environment, altho that can be done by less invasive means tho DoD would prefer backup in the head for any case scenario  [6]  and in reality knowing that safety comes not solely by watchfulness but readiness for response too thus what is lacking now is democratic standardization of such social control, tho social darwinism aims for reaching utopia thus its question whether we will see democratic balance at all and most probably will witness imposed ea-determinist hype for total control, for what this kind of monstrous sensationalism triggered by brainwashing can also come handy for such wonnabe scientific dictatorship!, for which the current social tissues are already obsolete even as humanism but the blueprints for posthumanism are already rolling in background, we will just need to see eventually whether in metaverse hiving "they" will program citizens for emotional intelligence too except violence, hm imagine all live happy utopia sharing everything nonviolent as newborns, Our Almighty Lord will forbid such daydreaming simply coz its not purpose for this World to be Heaven but Reminder that we need to Earn pass for reentry coz seen from metaphysical side we've fall here by penance and before end in eternal oblivion its given chance to Repent but this kind of Christian knowhow is strange for humanists so would not push it further as anti'utopian'digression in this thread, maybe other ... hm from this soteriological aspect tho mortal combat alike indoctrination can and is problem for reaching Theosis but yeah who cares mids humanism which chase apotheosis whether games or soc.nets can cripple someones Soul for Spiritual Feats and emotional intelligence worthy for Salvation!?, yep this indeed is problem how traditional countries are bleached by wrong globalism thus expected that can be cushioned particular weapon tradition by stiff law enforcement what again as we can see dont stop murders in Japan, for that Active Live Christianity or Islam can balance eventual pressure in such countries, but how when Christianity is pushed off on the margins by secularism as anyhow useful social conditioning trough the education or its given only sporadic facultative instead main role in the Schools, simply knowing alone that the Life continues after our time in this World is cushioning if not else from traumatization of any eventual tragic events like wars or massacres!, but yeah who cares about those that got traumatized and how will continue day after!

   
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As last probability beneath h). in the first post I've numbered gaming too, tho the same is least effective reason eg. Japan altho has the most violent gaming market (or horror perversion of cultural hype probably due to shinto demonology as traditional inheritance) still the related homicides till now never occurred altho this could be also due the harsh weapon laws

No, that's not the reason. Japanese temperament can be attributed to their genetics, I think. Gun control laws are largely a failure in most countries that implement them. If you're a criminal at heart, you will cause harm by any means necessary.

That being said, it is essential to approach crime with a subjective lens, carefully considering the unique circumstances and understanding the underlying causes that drive individuals to engage in criminal activities. In a vast and diverse country like the United States, with a population exceeding 300 million, it would be overly simplistic to attribute these atrocities to a singular cause, such as the influence of violent video games or drug use. Instead, we must acknowledge that a multitude of complex factors contribute to criminal behavior.

While it is challenging to pinpoint a single cause, we can observe a significant rise in divorce rates over the past three decades and the consequent shift away from the traditional nuclear family structure. This societal change has undoubtedly had an impact on children and their upbringing. Studies have indicated that children from broken or non-traditional family backgrounds may face a higher risk of engaging in criminal behavior later in life. The absence of a stable family unit, emotional support, and guidance can create an environment that leaves individuals more vulnerable to criminal influences.
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Genetics hm, its like saying computer code can fire a bullet, for what without whole system the code per'se is just code ...

Now if the system is arranged to accelerate bad effects then the causality should be obvious as contributing factors so the bullet would fire coz evil cause!, unique motivating circumstance would be poverty eg. favela violence in Brazil or Columbia among Kids, yet in the mentioned serbian case that wasnt issue, so defacto we are witnessing programed violence due to soc.nets in my opinion where the complexity of the case can be attributed on the alienation of modern Kids from parents that pushed under the modern neoliberal capitalist rush for chasing 24/7 profit or fun simply dont have enough time to watch over their offspring which like that is actually isolated in its own virtual world when even there were signals thats something is happening simply werent recognized!, tho in the suggested case sum of wrong events contributed for the greater amount of casualties eg. that the emotionless or better said by negative emotion charged kid executed Ten Kids coz was experienced airsoft shooter but also went in shooting range thus having experience with real guns!, still the motives are utter strange so innocent would become targets!

About the wrong decomposition of traditionalism Yes it is factor for lees means for stress cushioning, still even mids large families living together or communities tied closely I've observed even earlier built up of violent vibe due to exposure to modern wrong sex crime or even hero narrative exploitation in movie music or game industries, in the last case maybe not so noticeable but existing [1] what altho positive cultural hype its making unworthy complex in all that cant achieve super stamina almost prime trend in competitive neoliberal capitalist environment even for common people, still incomparable to the "I bury those cockroaches" scarface alike programing that defacto has imprint in the young psyche similarly as kardashian alike realities have too [2][3][4]-[2][2][2]'[3][3][3]'[4][4][4] simply said music (or the rest repetitive media) shapes the hearth and I'll use one aristotelian point to back this claim "Music directly imitates the passions or states of the soul…when one listens to music that imitates a certain passion, he becomes imbued with he same passion; and if over a long time he habitually listens to music that rouses ignoble passions, his whole character will be shaped to an ignoble form" [5][5] and above all try put Yourself in shoes of idealess poor uneducated bored egodriven Youth that 24/7 listens to "I wonna all I wonna now" alike live fast enjoy and die famous and rich like king so it opens like that for many door for jail if not six feet under!, again we should not forget that the media especially when repetitive (eg. fast tiktok pieces with violent or horror content) can and do lobotomize even elderly what about Kids [6][6][6] which brains are under development when their neuroplasticity is shaped exactly in killa form once hooked on gangta vibe [][][] and either too much info or not enough as distraction can trigger wrong response even when there is not real need for it!, now some Kids are fearless other smart or patient thus not all wonnabe gangsta pants will develop animal mind but mostly sociopatic with pressure potential for psychopatic, hm think probably narcism even its overcomed quickly coz fast life when its not so important anymore the pedestal as the sustainability and survivability i.e. not for all on the streets its important to make name but hit and run if they can (knowing that many are educated nowadays) [8] probably only locked by circumstances or desperate one are more prone on idolization of their vices, altho how fakebook became egotrip norm wanted or not most of the present there are pulled on egotripping if not else in defense when slapped by wrong words!. hm not everyone accept swearing family with smile right!?, yet obviously "someone" has incentive to be like this and is leaving everything on selfregulation so would reach later by plea totalitarianism, tho in this basket games dont drop some will say, yet maybe not on first site coz the repetitive moves however present are still swim in various confined virtual line, its not left on the imagination to embed own feelings and expectations, altho how demonology is regular part of the narrative defacto if not directly indirectly subconsciously is influencing Kids at least on indifference for Christianity what would be drop out from the most moral guiding knowhow for Survival and Salvation in this World, now not that I was some gamer but do have been in childhood death metal fun for few years thus quite deep can grasp the risks of such narrative in games [9] now go tell them that I've do found comfy chair in playstation internet cafe while playing TK in '90s [9] can it be that revoked earlier death metal memories surely, luckily I've been already reeducated by Reggae for lets smile out the hood for good ... yet possession can come in various ways [9]

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Now if the system is arranged to accelerate bad effects then the causality should be obvious as contributing factors so the bullet would fire coz evil cause!, unique motivating circumstance would be poverty eg. favela violence in Brazil or Columbia among Kids, yet in the mentioned serbian case that wasnt issue, so defacto we are witnessing programed violence due to soc.nets in my opinion where the complexity of the case can be attributed on the alienation of modern Kids from parents that pushed under the modern neoliberal capitalist rush for chasing 24/7 profit or fun simply dont have enough time to watch over their offspring which like that is actually isolated in its own virtual world when even there were signals thats something is happening simply werent recognized!,

Being separated from mom and dad for an extended period of time per day definitely plays a role in the psyche of a child, as it can have various emotional and developmental implications. Children naturally form strong attachments to their parents or primary caregivers, and these attachments serve as a foundation for their sense of security and well-being. When they are consistently separated from their parents, especially during crucial developmental stages, it can lead to a range of psychological effects. Perhaps this is what we're seeing here.

However, based on the data that has come out from studies that have studied identical twins who were separated at birth, regardless of how they were raised, by whom they were raised, they still acted similarly and behaved similarly to their separated sibling in their adult life. The fact that separated identical twins exhibit similarities in their adult lives despite being raised in different environments suggests the presence of genetic influences. Identical twins share nearly identical genetic material, which can contribute to shared predispositions and traits. Genetic factors can influence various aspects of behavior and cognition, such as intelligence, personality traits, and certain physical characteristics. This is what I was referring to when I mentioned that Japanese temperament can be attributed to their genetics. Even if we purposely introduce guns into Japanese society, I don't think it will have a significant impact in crime rates.

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when one listens to music that imitates a certain passion, he becomes imbued with he same passion;

This is true, but someone with the genetic disposition to not commit crime will know when to turn it off, at least the majority will. There's a reason why only certain groups mainly listen to this genre more than others, perhaps they are easily influenced, and this is their target audience (I'm referring to black Americans and to a lesser extent people of Latin origins).
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Ah genetics, social darwinism its indeed fallacy that indoctrinated many, as in case of virology in this case obviously also eugenics played wrong role [1][1] not that I will debunk social darwinism in one post, but try explain how come kamikaze step out from Your claim, if I go further altho okinawans are potentially most happy japanese citizens still have terrifying homicide stats [2][2][2] simply genetics have role in violence as caterpillar with honey Slight Smile and think that the social environmental factors play probably biggest role when violence is in question!, on other hand the proposition with the twins can be explained by bioresonance yet the same is still far from mainstream biological theory thus dont expect that will be accounted as relevant explanation by the current mainstream trends [3] altho it could be also word for some fringe torsion field of entanglement [3] or after all also bioresonant side effect [3] in which case probably genetics played role but not as disposition but identical vibrational lock of dna guess, hm it would interesting to be observed how identical could get in same ethnicity!?, normally if ever is accepted bioresonance as mainstream theory!

Now, did sociologists adopted gene-environment interaction think yes [4][4] and that says all, but not all are willing to accept it, guess social darwinists even lesser, for eugenicists it would be heresy to be lower genetics as prime factor coz how would "they" chase superhumanity if step back!?, yet even by simple logic if we address depression and genetics there are many studies that suggest how alone by Exercise the neurotransmitter for serotonin is boosted and the neuroplastic properties of the brain are modulating the stress easily even genetically someone is prone to depression (my emphasis) [5] altho the prevalent hype would be it cant be evaded genetic predisposition [6] still then how we can explain the neuroplasticity of the brain and the potential eg. even with half brain to function normally, thus logically the environment has equal role if not greater ... I'll offer my personal example my family was not at all violent as I am aware all my ancestors were cool my parents maybe among the most unviolent citizens  yet raised in the ghetto since smallest legs I've developed temper of street fighter also wonna'be tuff'gong later and normally were was 24/7 powdered from rock and death metal till hardcore and finally gansta rap (bodycount and public enemy or nwa and ghetto boys were my waking routine) still got struck in the head by Reggae around 16th year and voila I've became one of the most LLTFFG (Lets Leave The Fists For Gardening) type of homeboy!, and defacto if wasnt pacified by cheerful vibe probably would had have end up in jail if not six feet under!, imagine waking up every morning with "killing in the name of" surely would have become anarcho rioter at least!, hm nowadays probably mashups are chilling out the vibe [7][7][7] and I can go on and on with mine or other experiences but the environment is higher factor than genetics, compare it to Botany, having even the most unique Seed if the Soil Water and Fertilizer are poor its question how abundant ripe will come!, in comparison 1. genetics (seed) ~ 2. soil (environment) ~ 3. water (culture) ~ 4. fertilizer (education hobbies sport), so now when all of these are 1. weakened 2. virtual 3. decadent 4. mammonistic its more than logical that even earlier good shaped "Plant" due to  neuroplasticity to reach wrong rewiring, what about the modern Kids which from start are deprived for normal socialization or left on selfregulation ~ simply many parents dont have even idea how to cope with all the cultural triviality and emotional lobotomy that made desolation addicts from their Kids!

Interesting I am just now learning that few years ago CCP started to see violent gaming as wrong and addiction risk for the chinese Youth imposing only 3 hour daily online exposure per Child [8][8][8] wonder did that action was due to IQ test studies or measure was only violence!?, hm half billion gamers says the last footnote, but imagine if its not gaming as pressure valve probably many now adults would tilt on their workplace and potentially release "their" animal on coworkers [9] still if the person is isolated due to long hours gaming addiction also it could be developed eliminate all reflex in reality [9][9][9] So where is the balance? And this asks maybe for more thoughtful social engineering like it was with school sport hype in China where the emphasis is on daily group routine so all Kids would be fit and like that later capable for more joyful outdoor activity [10][10][10] not sure just how better gamers are as result of  zǎo cāo morning school warming routine!?, tho in context of the last footnote witnessing that earlier mentality and the modern one are not same especially coz unless is compulsory on work place too its question how urban citizens will keep enmasse such habit which by itself is good even without exercise [12] but yeah go warm up for gaming!, and if gaming is issue altho fun as two way communication, then how much more is soc.net one way endless scrolling where on repeat some Kid would like all day clips of Mohamed Ali or Rambo and on top living roll models (that tho havent reached UFC cage so less angry) thus cant imagine whats going on in the heads of regular "can I kick it" Kids with daily like routine of croCop gymnastics [13] tho Croatia probably cushion that hype with wide hedonistic bumper of Adriatic Sea thus somehow relaxes all, also the policing its tighten as if it was word for China [14][14] guess in free time count the bird population around city parks Slight Smile yet that keeps them safe and probably its best all to have such mindset especially as preparedness for any case scenario like risks from global economic depression when the current criminal rates will explode for sure [15] but as could be seen Serbia is on same level yet couldnt anticipate the risks, and to that probably influence the large crime scene also huge hedonistic turbofolk tension but also dont have own Sea so all would chill at least in summer!, probably earlier was cheap for them to jump wherever would like, but now hm guess even park stroll is expensive thing for many, and as pressure it will burst somewhere for sure, sadly in this case in most wrong places and means, and if its any social comfort this can provoke proactive response by the community so would be regulated more logically now the loosen internet realm and weapon possession trends, also finding ways how to boost Emotional Intelligence in Kids (eg. connected to schools local social network and eforums would give opportunity for) but also finding ways how to help them with their behavior addictions like gaming or endless scrolling eg. by belongingness to more tight group like the neighborhood for what eTOS can help too in form of municipal unit eforum where the involvement in day to day most local issue will be debated in a way like growing awareness that part of live community what eventually should be further pushed on municipal eforum as thematic eforums thus many idealess and lonely will have chance to take part in the events and action in their own surrounding what for sure will engage them in worthy spent time for common good also hanging with purpose thus getting selfestesm and surpassing loneliness [16] the problem eventually can arose if instead traditional values modern halloween alike are loosen thus such etool can become even greater trap for all, making from the elderly junkies and from the youth drunkards if its not fastened such system by stiff moderation and oversight, and probably biometric registration could overcome eventual risks, still it ask for new penology also but instead in social credit system alike reward and punishment by communal work while continual swearing instead fine to provoke court rural work example i.e. if the offender helps in building refuge for rural emigrants surely will get some satisfaction instead paying huge for treats or dropping in jail coz neighboring smack (logically every tightening has own hiccups) at least it should be optional norm for sentencing!

 
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Sorry for the bad grammar and all typos or wrong words eg. instead mashups obviously should stay covers, coz mashups can be even more fueling except extinguishing [1][1] hm probably I needed to emphasize how the complex interaction can hype Kids nowadays for good or worst, so Sport should and could put them on right track to come down however got high!, altho as with any addiction it takes extra effort and will so Sport would become secure exit [2] but how eventual spike of boredom and not just violence trends to be evaded mids economic hardships for such exiting to be secured i.e. how Sport to be boosted on all levels even mids crisis, for what most effective approach would be nationalization of betting and gambling [3][3] so all profit to end up in Free Sport Equipment and Terrains available for all Kids normally fastened by clever redefinition of rules for group sports so every Kid would have competition opportunity like one bench to play just one half while the reserve second (what could be useful even for adult competition if not else locally so would be built even in small places coz the chance for sprinting more attractive match [4][4] instead to tilt in shadow on the bench and clapping to the most forced co-players what if is not frustrating instead to be loosen joyful pleasure makes from the Kids performing wonnabe sport robots!, also tying Art and Sport as norm could help involve also all those Kids that are not attracted by the ball'me'up'scotty hype maybe by designers mood eg. having opportunity to tag the terrains if not the games surely having group juggling at the half time [5][5] and when all that would supported by the local community like bonuses for the attendees eg. free icecream and/or juice then surely it could be secured greater participation even in most dull place!, plus if it could be chosen type of Sport without club fees even for adrenaline sports like Climbing or Skating [5][] then the success for (24/7 gaming and soc.net) deterrence will be achieved easily!
 
Also Sorry for my heavy digressing eg. in post #8 above add that "super stamina (is) almost prime trend in competitive neoliberal capitalist environment" what tho I'll use it in this context too eg, in case of wide sporting hype this should be somehow loosened as competitiveness without mercy so would be evaded tifos alike idolization and polarization of teams or players, doable alone by the mixing up of the prime and bench players while one bench only first or second half!, ideally that should be norm for small local leagues too but go change fifa or fiba mindset example so would allow such revision or rules coz more attractive game even with average players!, also if and when anyhow is built tiffo hype as calming response its good to be organized even post football game an box or wrestling match continuation in controlled manner with security and judges among the opposite fans members (normally with full safety equipment) so in a way even their club lost the f-game got satisfaction by winning the wrestling continuation, I mean better hooligans to have regulated postmatch exhaust instead waiting to get together when get chance for "Let Me Tell You Why I Love Football" idealess streetfighter adrenaline addiction!, tho that could be also regulated easily if the local betting for local leagues is in state hands by lowering some club vibe by fixing matches from time to time coz evading social unrests!, those who would complain how that would be heresy dont forget the bulk of games are already fixed but mostly coz lucrative than social reasons, not that this could be proven but when billions are poured in sport betting [6][6][6] whats the odds that fairplay is norm!?, I'll say never will coz corruption rulz even mids socialism, nor sure about communism, but in neoliberal capitalism cmon even somehow its arranged to be impossible it will be circumvented by metaphysical means!

Finally the cruelty comes due to overexposure to the media glorification of gladiator alike hype, when what becomes goal in the life of many Kids is how to become best by default and if cant in Sport or School then easily can try on Street easily coz always cheating by weapons is norm!, what guess is trend even in stiff regulated weapon possession countries eg. ex-Yugoslavia was almost weapon free yet the Youth was not shameful in using whatever metal could reach so would dominate mostly the fair fight [7] yet in group fights stoning was somehow not rare occurrence and normally all this trend in the ghettos where tho we were lucky that there were always older around so would brake the chain of violence eg. in group clash by arranging if not else fair fight among the toughest teenagers!, where also cheating would have been forbidden or if excessive force is used the fight would be stopped ... in essence this was our pressure valve as Kids on streets after what it couldnt be built animosity that will thrive for long. tho we didnt have soc.nets so would boost haterate nor risks from isolation so would explode unintentionally!, and probably extra luck that the Police was super total brutal towards sociopats psychos or criminals, indeed in ex-Yu there was saying "You can slip on bench with pocked full of money and noone to rob You" as safety praising, but go explain this to eurobolsheviks and their pinch d evil by ears, I mean this is completely different topic and normally that "excessive policing force for all" is wrong approach but I dont see how animal can be calmed down if got eat dem all level!, tho nowadays there are at disposal various modern tools that can substitute buttons or guns but which ask probably unique preparedness even in fireweapon attacks [8] tho not all police officers are with samurai stamina!, cant imagine how useful would come to them if its allowed to every professional wrestler to exercise freely citizen arrest and even rewarded (payed per arrest) if helped the Police before arrive!, yeah all street fighters will get in Sport Clubs so would eligible for eventual bonuses while anyway do their routine daily stroll around the hood!, tho probably for such stunts would need to have always some gps gopro cam ready on belt, altho more useful would be public spying chance for all and Police to do their job as usual, but with this comes other risks like intentional framing coz bonus [9] hm reporting Your neighbor for using corporal punishment of his Kid yeah what could go wrong as steam pressure waiting to burst, altho better that than state managed panopticon through biochip in the head so bee drone will deliver the "painkiller" or satellites the calming vibe [10][10] what would be wrong coz such system would hard to be policed by the Citizens and easily misused by the elites eventually leading to rage against the machine and certain revolution against the system, but once all get dependent from such system through revolution its collapse its secured and day after huge risks for restart coz machines will do most of the policing, and instead all to be part of live watchover hype of citizen policing like in China, simply expecting that enough relevant witness is technology, yeah "enough" with all its possibilities for deep fakes [11][11][11] so its better always to have double check as evidence ahead!, machines can rule Mars for free if "they" like!, hm not sure cyborgs would be better on Moon or beyond!?

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I've missed the second 5th footnote tho good to be shared here but as climbing hint [5] that it should be reminder that balance should be always secured, coz nor extra loosen approach nor super stiff policing will bring logical solution for removing violence as trend, simply there are many variables thus illusory to be expected that on all levels can be achieved ideal solutions response or implementation of some legal "calming reality", but to be left everything to be selfregulated (primary coz chase for the fittest) that hm is wrong by all means eugenic mindset!

Also in context of the last paragraph digression about the "street fair play" it should be noted that such livable balance was probably result of complex but smooth cultural economical and safe environment thus noone was willing earlier in socialist Yugoslavia to lose its normal quality of life, and as mentioned earlier home or school corporal punishment was norm for all while in the last post mentioned stiff policing probably its good to be portrayed so it could be understood more clearly how was regulated deviant behavior even outdoors as is eg. in jail riots elsewhere [1] Yet I will quote one line from the preceding to the last merged post i.e. people nowadays are far more meeker thus zoo alike training would be seen as barbarism of policing against violent Kids Adolescents or Adult (in eU and usA) and probably here citizens would prefer emf or chemical lobotomy by psychiatric taming, altho it would be good by libertarian means every Community to chose own type of prevention and penalization that will suppress violence feed by evil, what earlier was rare exception and mostly from honor triggered steaming (when criminal is not in question), but once through secular republicanism was dismantled religious traditionalism simply honor became obsolete foolishness for all "the fittest", and once trickery became prevailing social norm due to the boosting of amorality evil indeed got safe gateway in many hearths, thus ideally not just libertarianism but also all the positive traditional religious norms should play huge part in the social regulation of some community, hm can it be achieved such balance, probably yes if referendums are regularly employed direct democratic tools!

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Now however would decide some community to stir prevention and penology for violence and crime, what think its also important to grasp that coz the modern Youth is detraditionalized as result of globalization definitely is influenced by the subcultural trends what if in the past century was reserved for rock in this one is for electro (or turbofolk) and hip hop, in both cases mostly exploited the sexual undertones yet in rap also parallel meme is violence (usually as appeal to fear agitprop) by the washed up from rat race or street life existentialism of unnormies, I mean respect that they defy lobotomization by the normies and their classics [1] but themselves to behave like them and impose to all own exceptionalism as ideal trend hm its also wrong!, and from this aspect the communities need to be aware that need to subsidize eg. delasoul funk alike sampled hh or digible planets alike jazz hip hop eg. giving some tax exemption for coffee shops or malls where such vibe flow, altho ideally Reggae is most useful subcultural vibe that can hug all with smile even in butcheries [1] still as I've mentioned earlier its turbofolk variation of dancehall or ragga think should be avoided!, I mean look the heaviness of the unesco inclusion will for rapping in South America by YOK freestyle ~ at least this next footnoted announcement for "Fundación Artística y Social La Familia Ayara" sounds heavy [2][2] instead to be chill slow rider flow eg. [] tho ghetto life so I have understanding, altho this should be also addressed by the foundations as framework too [4][4] yep sharing calming vibes should be the most important ngo hype in times of wide downfall of quality of life and as consequence tensions waiting to erupt in violence!, tho violence can have many forms eg. provoked by social revolution [5] or "ideological enlightening" [6][6][6] usually defended as needed by some group of exceptional minds which cant find or are not willing to seek creative ways for bringing change, Gandhi comes to mind tho rare exception of revolutionary coz influenced by jainists surrounding [7][7] but true nonviolence by wide group can come only through Christianity through Jesus i.e. Evangelion of Jesus (The Oath Of Love and Forgiveness) [8][8][8] yet mids secularism and humanism how we can expect that Soteriological Message to be shared!?, hm dont mind my local patriotism in the last footnote tho its good to be pointed on the here typo (hear should be logical read) that shares higher vibe that even now and here we can experience the taste of The Heavenly Kingdom but how if we give greater educational emphasis on reductionism decadence consumerism mechanistic lusts for heaven'on'earth and etc. alike side effects humanism!?, and if we have luck instead technocracy real libertarian democracy to burst ahead maybe things will get balanced ahead ...


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In context of the last points in the previous post I'll need to emphasize that the sheer difference between eg. christian traditionalism and humanism is around the Virtues that in Christianity convey Patience Calmness Peace [1][1][1] while in humanism by scientific deductive justification will accept even machiavellianism coz what is moral or unmoral for others its not necessary for "them"!, and altho not all stems of humanism are bleached by emotionless reasoning [2] still coz humanism is child of european neopaganism [2][2][2] we can say it got religious deistic apex through freemasonry, what would be an neopagan religion as sole opposite to Christianity [2][2][2] what additionally can be discerned by the freemasonic virtues [2][2][2] ...... now why this matters should be obvious i.e. in many respects it can be recognized that not that neoliberal capitalism stimulated per'se decadence and survival of the fittest but in question are humanistic glitched mids secularism that became excuse for extremes in whatever exploitation!, foremost material but also emotional ideological scientific etc. hijacked realms by humanism, practically the car is capitalism while the fuel humanism, So where are the brakes!?, maybe finally euroatlantic realm will need to hit em when its sexploitation will pull pedophilia from the swamp!?

Hm, will we see libertarian freedom on municipal level ever regards education if not else i.e. municipalities to decide by their own what values should be shared in their own borders!?, hm till darwinism is wrongly imbued in humanism think not coz by hierarchical authoritarianism the current trend for centralization of power on west will not easily let such defragmenting risks even on cultural level!, but such centralization its risk by itself actually even mids plutocracy by the logic of beta male group superiority over elites [3] but who knows maybe through enough propaganda of the hero complex narrative this was deprogrammed somehow!?, and indeed egoism became prime motor of our age but mostly for the wrong reasons!, individualism became hype beyond logic that threatens our very existence eg. in usA till utmost extremes [4]

Now if we see this in context of the Youth as individualism and isolation, on top powdered by superman idolization, then surely nowadays many Young Souls got lost and tilting without any true Love thus as result becoming prone to sociopathy or if longer frustrated then to psychopaty!, thats why soc.nets are intoxicating place for chasing Companion, but probably it would take some time to be understood that for such solo fishing not everyone are capable!, thus even now shamefully is coming back the informal social institution of Matchmakers what could eventually save the day if becomes trend [5] yet who can tell that in detraditionalized community such pivot will lead to perfect match, altho actually thats the main problem i.e. it needs to be debunked the hype that perfection is possible on this plain of existence for us as collectively so as individually at best it dont lasts indefinitely alone just coz aging if the beauty is measure, altho the trendy delusion comes in lust for complete perfection of beauty mind status wealth fun etc, personal values, so good luck finding the princetones around, fallacy of the deist delusions for superhumanity which as propagated by tv rolemodeling buried many in the fantasy world what in effect makes isolated people more anxious and depressing and as such risk factor to their community!, eh earlier if someone stayed unmarried immediately whole family would engage while now eventually apps to fool someone if from boredom drop in more direct hunt for companion!, hm will now become additional category vaxed unvaxed?, anyway earlier that informal traditional institution was by default norm like some occurrence, while now guess need to be marketed by the governments so would be secured greater safety!, but hm if euroatlantic determinists aim to keep population growth stagnant its question whether will sit with crossed hands if such trend burst!?, probably for "them" is more easier to biochip all and calm them by push'of'button or happy'pills while keeping promiscuity or isolation high by various FTV alike sexy trends so as later as possible if at all equal procreation would become norm instead just possible opportunity like nowadays!, and add to this abortionism and voila Young instead to reason in terms of family just lust till they can for promiscuity even it was virtual one pumped by voyaerism!, psychos no like that You'll get animals for sure once economic depression burst ahead, hm when at least woman will come to senses that what matters is safety foremost that cant come through wokism, tho maybe daydream about cyborg macho boys now hm just not to end up only with paranoid androids instead!
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d. Parental neglectance
e. School safety incompetence
f.  School competing curriculum

It dont need to be brainier so even from perspective of observer what about participant to grasp that these three probabilities are interconnected, actually all numbered are in various extents, but these three think have prime role for tracing certain path towards deviant behavior in Children!, d) mostly due the generational tech gap thus parents cant or dont know how to cope with their Children when internet addiction is in question or how to divert their attention by more attractive content from the wrong one on which their Children hooked, and once the Kid got independent as reckless and unobedient then normally comes e) as going with such temper in school where teachers need to cope with the Children in lets put it picturesque like vibrant wonna be monsters (normally since smallest legs are trained by pokemons bentens spidermans etc. alike seemingly benign transhumanist programming) what is even further ballooned vibe when the competing curriculum first will make them angry waiting to cross in indifference for everything!, actually the prime role nowadays of prime schools is to keep the Kids busy except teaching an basic literacy throwing them even since smallest legs wrong competitive hype as if they all are prone to learning by reading, especially not the modern kid that experienced internet gaming or e-voyaerism!, all in all teachers try hard to pass the curriculum what as consequence leaves them less space to be true tutors [1] so above all detecting wrong signals among students is disrupted especially coz the very same kids continue to hang after school time on soc.nets where actually it will be even easier to be noticed wrong group trends (or wrong personal behavior) that can serve as wrong motivation of follow me blueprint, So in essence teachers (or practicants at least) need to continue monitoring them so would prevent burst or escalation coz whatever reasons, yeah coz costs and underfunding probably tommorow a.i. will be released to do this work and yeah that will be more than wrong coz a.i. cant differ emotionally from teasing to mobbing i.e. whether the jokes or slimy kicks are accepting or threatening [2] simply a.i. can make wrong pressure on all if eg. local soc.nets are tied to schools and as free time hanging influence grading!, or who knows maybe like that kids will be forced to run outdoors and hang in the hood so would live life like we all have earlier when building true communication skills or learning how to cope with the real situation was embraced on street!, but yeah back then most if not all adults where out on street too thus there was always someone to watch over the green group growing!, I remember there were occasions when I was took by ear or hand to my home coz done this or that so my parents would penalize me!, and it worked coz the situation involves real risks but when the same cant be experienced in real life it will never be seen or learnt from them for good, virtually guess that is overseen by kids as offense or its not punished like behavior as would be in real life eg. swearing the patrolling officer hat or throwing water bag from terrace etc. alike dennis menace stupidity!

Now when under d) parents neglectance is excused inefficiency of monitoring due to tech gap nowadays, more probably the reason why the same is left to flow until its too late to be intervened and the gaming or soc.net addiction dropped in, think its coz the modern laws for childrens rights which not that are wrong but in my opinion need revision as overprotective (that the parent is even guilty if the kid fall while sporting coz didnt bought the right sneakers) making from kids spoiled unobedient dependent burden instead Joy, burden coz its really unhealthy Kids to be played by reward and punish system but only through money!, first of all not all parents are wealthy but also like that in the end spoiling is secured and manipulation granted (from both sides and usually for the wrong reasons), spanking plucking slapping cant be substituted with yelling psychiatric drugs or parental custody loses, as if traditionalism is evil towards those who You love mostly, tho it is in many cases due to overreacting or molesting, but to remove corporal punishment anblock [3][3][3] that for sure will lead to psychiatry and knowing that nowadays kids are even more unobedient mostly coz overload of informations (and pleasures from all sides) then once they drop with their behavior then what choice parents have 1. either to ignore it and leave it to roll on its own or 2. to throw it on psychiatric prescription, Go choose wise!, most of people in such dread law circumstances (having no balancing means for authoritative parenting) normally will leave it to roll as the kids like and like that actually making mistake and no favor to its own child, but to make from it huxlean patient cmon!?, are really such uneducated people about the risks from psychiatric drugs [3][3] hm surely there are yet when things will come to the last phase the pill yeah its fix wanted or not!, so how to balance prevention of violent kids by words good luck with that [3] in essence balancing is most useful approach but how to balance when one extreme like slapping is removed and in its place is thrown as solution psychiatric pill which btw are prescribed afterwards and cant be used effectively like fast tutoring penology at home!, hm looks almost like intentional skim of behaviorists (read eugenicists) so by stirring extra violent atmosphere due to mandatory neglectance how corporal punishment is removed day after when the apex will be reached wide and long simply to be introduced cyborg patches for behavior correctness, or even if wasnt an skim it leads towards - especially knowing the ideals of behaviorists half century ago [4][5][6] now guess which trauma will last more the slap of the parent or the buzz by the system!?

f) Hm, its really strange how from one side Kids are overloaded by triviality info, on other how loaded are by dry reading curriculum, what eventually leads to extra pressure from all sides!, one that cant be eased even by reinvented grading [7][7] how addicted are to gadgets thus need more and more interactive schooling but also greater interaction [8][8][8] aside that its expected from them even in 21st century to follow 19th century broilering [9] while they are additionally dependent on fashion or gaming trends!, So prime approach as response would be how to keep them defocused from triviality and focused on knowledge, what maybe as greater connecting of schools and their private lives through local social networks could prove beneficial from one hand [10] still from other its question whether complete redefinition of broiler towards individualized schooling would prove more effective, for what interactive home schooling through documentaries can help so would be loosened the reading hype, stil learning through active engaged debate can bring more joyful schooling, but mechanistic and atomization hype of humanism [11][11][11] dont leaves huge room for this thus I dont expect that we will seen fast proactive change so Kids would enjoy again going on school ... this practically will ask from teachers to work with smaller dedicated groups and having greater tutoring momentum!, and/or eventually all Kids should be directed towards Martial Arts so would loosen their pressure in right manner on right place, male and female both, altho that will produce spartan atmosphere which in the end its maybe good for usA how weapon free country it is!, overall there cant be reached universal global blueprint for all countries, but every should acclimatize on and to its possibilities traditions and trials, otherwise for long ahead we will tilt in the same violent vibe from which "someone" will benefit in the end among other as good experimental springboard towards transhumanism!, not convinced check carefully the linked footnotes in the last 1st eleventh footnote, for "them" as euroatlantic elites we as Mankind are just bunch of experimental rats left alive so would serve their lab purpose while "they" chase superhuman!, so till "they" have grip on the western realm the same will sink in more and more totalitarian form!, wonder just till when on "their" spins will dance rest of the World!?
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